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Slowly does it VFR 800 review Scotland 2008 report Pillion tips

The Harrogate Advanced Bikes Newsletter

Welcome to October!

Autumn is just around the corner, where was summer? Soon we will have the last Sunday ride out, this is a popular one as Mark always finds some great roads and leads us on to some good coffee stops! And the first of our Indoor meetings this month, I hope you can all join us to hear our speaker from i2i, some great tips on riding and good offers for training. I will not be attending this meeting as I will be Working out of the country again, so our Vice chairman Bob, will take the chair to welcome you all to the meeting, sorry for my absence. I was disappointed that we needed to postpone the rider of the Year contest, but fear not! There will be a new date set very soon; please can you join us for this fun event? Make the Most of the late Autumn sun as we are expecting a cold Winter, ( I will be out anyway). Safe riding to one and all Jonathan


Slowly does it VFR 800 review July ride-out report Scotland 2008 report Who's watching who? Pillion tips Biking China-style Page 3 Page 4 Page 6 Page 7 Page 10 Page 12 Page 14

September ride-out report Page 16

The views and opinions expressed in articles, letters, etc are those of the respective authors, and are not necessarily those of the editor, or the Management Team of Harrogate Advanced Bikes or IAM HQ.

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Slowly does it

Article submitted by Mark Grainger, photography by Richard Cooper

Slow Riding Workshop

Once again our Slow Riding Workshop, Sunday 27th July, proved a resounding success. Everyone attending the day learning new techniques, with the opportunity to practice using them to perfect slow riding in a safe environment. The ultimate goal to help them ride slowly, safely and with confidence, useful not only for the IAM test but for everyday riding. We have had over forty people attending the two 2008 workshops, the participants comprising of new Associates, existing members and acquaintances taking the opportunity to learn more about Harrogate Advanced Bikes. Obviously none of the above can take place without the assistance from others: therefore thanks to Harrogate College for the use of the car park; Tom at i2i for the loan of the cones and to the Observers and helpers on the day.

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First impressions

Article submitted by Richard Cooper

Honda VFR 800

A couple of months ago I decided that the time was right to change my Fazer 600 for something perhaps better suited for touring. I was not unhappy with the Fazer but it is over 8 years old and travelled almost 50,000 miles. When I returned to biking and bought the Fazer the other machine I was interested in was a Honda Deauville. At the time the one available was outside my budget so I bought the red machine. So now my thoughts returned to a Deauville as a replacement bike. There was one available in Harrogate well within budget but not available for a test ride. Unfortunately Barry Ring had had his accident so I could not try his Deauville "for size". Talking to HAB members, it was suggested that a Honda VFR800 might suit me better. I had sat on one in a showroom and knew that my short legs were in fact long enough for my feet to reach the ground. I decided to go further and checked out several Internet sites to see what was available within my price range. There was nothing suitable at a dealer close to home but there was one for sale privately on eBay in Stockton-on-Tees. I contacted the seller and arranged to view and test it.

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So on a hot Sunday evening I met with Gavin, the third owner of a five year old silver Honda VFR800. The machine had only 4,900 miles on the clock and appeared to have a full service history including a recall for a potential oil leak. There were some minor marks on the bodywork and the rear tyre would need replacing after my holiday in Scotland. Otherwise it appeared in good condition. Gavin had listed it for auction but had also offered a "buy now" price. I offered him the "buy now" price, which was accepted. The deal was completed on 31st July and I rode the bike back to Bedale. Two days later I came to thoroughly check out the bike and have another ride on it. Two problems became apparent. The engine would not start and there was a gash developing in the rear tyre. The battery was totally dead. Probably it had been sitting idle for a long period and become completely discharged. I should have recognised this as potential problem, but did not. Both the battery and tyre have been replaced in preparation for the HAB trip to Scotland. Since bringing the bike home I have ridden it about 80 miles to determine how far it would go on reserve. I have found the bike very easy to ride solo without luggage. That opinion may be modified after the trip to Scotland loaded with luggage and more than another 1000 miles on the clock. I certainly feel that the riding position needs to be modified and am actively seeking bar raisers.

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The ten fords ride

Article submitted by Bob Hill

(Only Two Were Wet Ones)

I was looking forward to Andy's second ride out this year as it appeared to offer something of a change with a trip down less frequently travelled paths. (Some of them were not much more than paths!) However, I digress. Andy made a late offer to run this ride as we had, up until two weeks before the run, no volunteers. Not expecting much in the way of support this late into the holiday season I was pleasantly surprised to see a fair collection of bikes and owners in the car park. Andy was there of course on his BMW R1150RS. (Which he prefers to his old GS! Nothing to do with his ford incident? Ask Andy) There were only two other BMWs, Steve on his R1200 Adventure and Keith on his GS. There were no fewer than 3 Triumph 955is belonging to Mireck, Rob Young and Nick Templeton as well as Roy Benniston on his ST. Three of us were on Hondas, an XR125, mine, Simon Cadwallader on his immaculate Fireblade and Andy Fletcher on his Blackbird finally Dave And Carole Dobson on the redoubtable FJR. This was quite a diverse mix of bikes for the route we were taking. We started off by a back route to Helmsley on a pleasant sunny morning. Although similar to last month's route it differed in that we went on to the York ring road then up the B1363 into the town. From there we went on to Pickering before taking a turn to the north and wending our way along some narrow and picturesque, high roads with stunning views across the moors. We picked our way through the cyclists, broken road surfaces, several cars and a couple of fords with about a foot of water in them.

We finally arrived a Rosedale Abbey (without an abbey!!) Where it was time for some sustenance. The café we went to have a peculiar system of purchasing and delivery of food which we negotiated before joining the now skeletal customers who had arrived about an hour before us. Eventually, some food arrived for us but not the aforementioned other customers. Not good. Anyway we engaged other customers in light banter and the situation never became ugly, in fact it was quite enjoyable. Some while later after we had all been fed Andy rounded us up for the last push through the wilds, travelling further North through Danby, Castleton and Battersby along other small and challenging roads with even more fords although only one had water. The views were stunning enough to distract one from carefully observing the road for gravel etc although we had few other vehicles on this part of the ride. We eventually zig zaged out way to Lord Stones Café for afternoon tea. This unusual café has been built in what could best be described as Neolithic Bunker Style. It has been dug into the hillside and could even be a section of First World War trenching. Anyway the cakes, ships and drinks were up to spec and delivered in a timely manner so who is complaining. From here it was a straight run down to Northallerton and return to Ripley via the A61 etc. This was again a splendid ride out, particularly enjoyable For the inclusion of the fords and challenging roads through some of the best countryside in Yorkshire. Many thanks to Andy and I hope we will do a similar run next year. Those who did not attend missed a great ride.

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Scotland 2008 report

Article submitted by Roy Beniston, various photographers

Experiences of the tour from the "New Boy"

As this was the very first bit of touring completed by yours truly, I thought it might be useful to jot down my thoughts and experiences of the event. Not knowing fully what to expect and with the weather forecast looking pretty miserable I packed as much extra clothing and wet weather gear that I could muster including extra boots, gloves, socks and shower proof coat plus a handsome array of security chains and locks. In the event only a small percentage of which was actually required, but useful lessons learned. The whole event started off from St. James Retail Park in Knaresborough, with the majority of bikes assembling at 8.30am, with others to be picked up en-route [Tim Hall at Boroughbridge & Richard Hall at Scotch Corner] On meeting up my first task was to supply Mark Grainger with a pair of pliers to extract a piece of metal that had embedded itself into his rear tyre, fortunately after it's removal and the application of a suitable amount of spit, was decided that it had not gone completely through the tyre and no air was escaping. After being duly briefed by Bob Hill on the intended route plus the manner of riding to be adopted we were all given telephone numbers of each other to allow contact in the case any of us got separated/lost!!. As it looked like it would be a wet outward journey Bob decided that instead of following the initial route plan we should go straight to the A1 and head north and pick up Tim at Boroughbridge forgetting that it was Minskip where Tim would be waiting. With no Tim in sight as we blasted past the Boroughbridge slip roads we sped on northwards. As it happened Tim had remained waiting for the pick-up at Minskip until well after 9.30am at which time he decided to travel up on his own but only got as far as Scotch Corner before his GPS power feed failed and had to return home to fix it. This meant that is was approximately 12.00 when he

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traffic lights to get into a rather small petrol station. However the interesting bit now started as Andy had shot off and Bob didn't really have any idea how to get back to the main group. We carried on following our noses getting more and more lost and going down some very small single track lanes which included the odd farmyard. I volunteered to use my GPS to lead our lost souls back to the A75 where we could then re-unite with the others, however we re-joined the A75 some ways ahead of the lay-by where we had left the others, Shotgun rider Andy volunteered to go back and round them up. Somewhere around this point Andy Fletcher's Honda decided to blow and melt a rectifier thus he was riding on battery power only and therefore having to resort to riding without lights and the use of semaphore hand signals only, Not realising his problem until later, I thought Andy was just being very deliberate and courteous with his turning signals!!. With no further incident and remarkably little rain we arrived at our first ferry crossing to Dunoon but with no sign of Tim! Good organisation with pre-booked tickets and Doug Masterton's bulldog spirit in making sure that all due fees were collected we proceeded to board the ferry without worry. Disembarking at Dunoon we then travelled across to Portavadie to catch the ferry to Tarbert this was a very scenic ride and we reach the ferry port to find Tim waiting having caught up more than 2 hours on our time (must have been using rocket fuel). The ferry journey to Tarbert was quick and uneventful and from the landing it was only a short ride to the Stonefield Castle Hotel which was a very impressive building, full of character and atmosphere. We had truly arrived in Scotland, enjoyed a very pleasant welcome followed by a smart shower and change for dinner. In beautiful weather, Sunday consisted of various separate groups doing their own thing. Tim and I went to the sea life sanctuary near Oban, then onto Inverary before travelling back to Tarbert where we diverted off to see and travel the 15 canal locks to Crinan thanks to Doug's recommendation. We also completed the 30 mile run of single track road that covers the loop from Inverneill to Tarbert which turned out to be a very exiting ride.

got back on the road and therefore decided to take the direct motorway route to catch up with us at the first ferry crossing `Gourock to Dunoon' [more of this later] meanwhile the rest of us proceeded to Scotch Corner and took Richard Cooper by complete surprise by coming out of the sun to his rear, having ridden through the pit stop lay-by rather than around it. All now in convoy (Tim excluded), intrepid Bob leading with Steve Coetzer acting as rear gunner and Andy Stoneman riding shotgun with his BMW speed machine zipping back and forth [wonderful pipe sound], we proceeded to our first stop at Alston for tea and butties which was very welcome. Back on the bikes we journeyed on until just past Dumfries where some of us needed fuel, so whilst the main group held up in a lay-by on the ring road, led by Andy and his snorting pipes, we headed off to find fuel in Dumfries which turned out to be a bit tricky and which involved all of us having to carry out a `U' turn at some

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The evening meal and subsequent bar time was spent with us all having a great laugh and recalling individual stories, we also met up with a mystery German hotel guest who turned out to be good company also with many stories. (He said he was a tax adviser !!!) Monday morning after another excellent breakfast saw us assemble for the return trip home. Doug & Val were staying on in Scotland for the remainder of the week travelling further north and Richard was also remaining and going to see his sister but not before he photographed us all as we rode out. The riding format remained the same for the return journey with Bob pioneering the route, Steve making sure he mopped up stragglers and Andy doing his outrider stuff, apart from the rotten weather after Dumfries, all went without a hitch including Andy Fletcher with his waving arms and semaphore signals. It was a brilliant experience with some fantastic riding and one that I will certainly try and repeat next year and would strongly recommend to anyone else. If I can do it anyone can! My thanks to Bob & Kate for their efforts in organising the trip and to all the other regulars who made me feel welcome.

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You never know who's watching

Article submitted by Bob Hill A strange title I know but let me tell you the story and you will see what I mean. One morning I was travelling to work on my motorbike. I wheel the BMW out and give it a check over and satisfied that all is well set off. The route takes me along the A61 amongst the early commuters who are speeding at 50 in the 40 limit dual carriageway and zig zagging from lane to lane to try and get an advantage over their fellow travellers. Everything is normal and as it should be as I turned on to the Leeds Northern Ring road heading West towards Bradford. The ring road is fairly clear as I head past Sainsburys and then cross the A660 Otley Road. It is about here that I notice another bike, a ubiquitous BMW GS, who is following me on to the next section of the ring road going downhill to West Park. As I go round the gentle curve I observe a queue of traffic forming at the next set of traffic lights. This is on a dual carriageway section and both lanes have queuing vehicles about 5 cars back from the lights. In the right hand lane I noted a large lorry and decided that I would only be able to filter up to the back of this. I came to a halt behind the truck, between the two lanes of traffic and just forward of the next vehicle in the right hand lane a Volvo. There was plenty of room between the two lanes of traffic and the GS I saw earlier followed me down and halted just behind me. We could go no further forward because

`Remembering my i2i training I kept calm and did not grip the bars and sure enough the bike stabilised so I looked round to find out what was going on.'

of the width of the lorry. Where possible I would have gone to the front of the queue. Anyway I had plenty of room and was comfortable with my position. As the lights changed I set off behind the lorry and remained on the line between the lanes. The lorry indicated right and I decided to wait until he cleared the lane. At this stage I was ahead of the Volvo and the following bike was conforming to my pace. The left lane had set off briskly and the cars were passing me safely to my left. As I looked forward again the lorry started to move right and I though that I would soon be released to the head of the lane and be able to get away. At this point the bike jumped and became unstable, it jumped again, feeling like I had run over something. Remembering my i2i training I kept calm and did not grip the bars and sure enough the bike stabilised so I looked round to find out what was going on. As I looked over my right shoulder I saw that the Volvo was nearly touching my right pannier. He's close I though and came to the

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conclusion that he had run into me. By now I was able to accelerate away from the Volvo but decided to try to flag him down to ascertain if there was any damage. I suppose, not surprisingly as it turned out the car driver seemed reluctant to stop. As I tried to slow the car down by slowing myself (On reflection, not to be recommended) the following GS overtook the car and rode alongside me and we both slowed down expecting the Volvo to stop. No chance he swerved round us both and sped off towards Horsforth. The other biker signalled me to pull over and I though, "At least I have a witness if there is any damage." Once we ha stopped the other rider identified himself as a police Sergeant on his way to work who told me, " That guy in the Volvo tried to run you off the road. I can't believe what I have just seen." Apparently the Volvo driver had deliberately driven into my bike and had done this three times. The bike was not damaged except for a few scuffs to the bottom of the pannier. (A good reason to have plain self coloured panniers) The Sergeant said that he intended to press charges against the driver and asked if I would be prepared to give a statement. Unbeknown to both of us the car following the Volvo was being driven by

another off duty Constable who stopped the Volvo, took the drivers details and cautioned him. The Volvo driver pleaded not guilty and was remanded to appear for trial by jury in the Crown Court. He was found guilty and banned for one year, will have to take an extended driving test before he will be allowed to drive again and fined £1000 with costs of about £750. To a certain extent I felt sorry for the driver. If the two policemen had not witnessed his driving, I would never have known that he deliberately rammed me, although I would have pursued the issue if he had not stopped. On the other hand if he had succeeded in tipping the bike over or he had done the same thing to a less experienced rider, the outcome could have been death or serious injury. Hopefully this will be a lesson to him. This also serves as a good lesson to all of us. Just remember that as we proceed down the highways and byways we are rarely alone and there is always someone who will notice. Should we ever be involved in an incident or accident the police will seek witnesses and from their statements deduce the conduct or demeanour of those involved. As advanced riders we should not, of course, be riding in an extravagant and aggressive way. But, remember, you never know who is watching!

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Yorkshire Evening Post, Friday July 11 2008

`As advanced riders we should not, of course, be riding in an extravagant and aggressive way. But, remember, you never know who is watching!'

Anyone for pillion?

Article submitted by Mark Grainger, photography by Richard Cooper One of the main topics I often get asked about centres on `riding pillion'. I therefore thought the following article might prove to be of interest. What bike to purchase? Basically the majority of bikes can take a pillion, it depends on how comfortable you wish to be; how far you wish to go; and what luggage you wish to carry. Before you make a commitment to purchase another bike: one thing I would always recommend is to take your potential pillion out on your existing bike. You never know they may decide that riding pillion is not for them. Before purchasing a bike I would consider: · Takingyourpilliononatestride,orataminimumgetthemtositonthe bike in the showroom. Is it comfortable? This is also better if you are both wearing bike gear to get a good feel for the bike · Canyoufitluggage(seeexhaust)? · Istheseatlargeenough,whatistheseatpaddinglike?Doesitresemble a postage stamp, only suitable for a trip to the shops! · Whatistheposition/relationshipofthefoot-pegslike?Toohigh?Toofar forward? Are the pillion's legs / knees at an uncomfortable angle? · Arethereanygrabhandles(lovehandlesdon'tcount)availableforyour pillion? Are they in a suitable place? Don't rely on a seat strap! · Exhaust considerations: warm bum from under-seat exhaust or can they burn their leg on a seat height exhaust (also limits the choice of soft panniers)? · Torquecharacteristic:hasthebikeadequatepowerfortwoupmotoring?

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Riding style The main thing is to build up your pillion's confidence in your riding. Numerous pillions have been put off riding pillion in the past, going out with a nutter who thinks that a good ride is demonstrated by how terrified their pillion is! So build up their confidence: · Agreeashort`introductory'route,withplaceswhereyoucanstopsafelyat approx 5 mile intervals to discuss how they are coping. From experience novice pillions are scared / wary of roundabouts and corners, so take this into consideration when you are planning your first run together. · Ifyoudon'thaveanintercomsystem:agreeamethodforsignals,e.g.if they are OK; to slow down; or to stop. · Agreeasystemofhowtheyneedtogetontothebike:fromwhatside; hand signals; nod of head when you are ready; etc. Likewise how to get off the bike. This is important to avoid the possibility of dropping the bike! Tip: I always put both feet down and apply the front brake to assist with the stability of the bike when they get on / off. · Accelerate/decelerateinitiallyslowly,thepillioncanthensensewhatyour intention is and make themselves ready when you increase acceleration, etc. · Avoid`sudden'hardbreaking(ifsafetodoso),againyoucanbuildupthe breaking effort after the initial bite and hence when your pillion is expecting it. · Keepitsmooth.

Clothing An obvious statement: if they are serious, get your pillion kitted out in suitable clothing to the same standard as yours, ensure their jacket is long enough and does not expose any flesh! Sounds obvious but take a note of how many pillions do, particularly in the summer months. This will a) keep them safer and b) warmer. Hein Gericke have a superb selection of clothing. Julie had one of their back protector's fitted (approx £20) to her latest jacket for safety and additional warmth, useful in winter. Sign of a good pillion Basically, you don't know they are there! Initially your pillion will hold on tight, be aware they may try and keep the bike upright on corners (not a good thing) when they become confident in your riding ability they will relax and most likely rest their hands in their lap or on their knees. Some pillions have been known to fall asleep, OK on a big tourer with armrests and backrest, a bit risky on a sports bike! Riding in groups Know the route and where they intend to stop, you can then relax and travel at a pace comfortable for the two of you. Numerous people within HAB's have travelled tremendous distances with a pillion, e.g. how about Spain and RUSSIA (or whatever they call it now). However, ensure you plan sufficient stops so that they can stretch their legs. Does anyone else have any tips they wish to share with us? Please forward any articles to Andy Stoneman.

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Biking China-style

Article and photography submitted by Jonathan Craig In china there is a huge expanding market for Motorcyclists, well more scooters. The bicycle is being replaced by scooters, just as in any city anywhere in the world. Most scooters require a road registration licence, but to have that you need to be a registered citizen, but in a country where 25% of all the people are not registered then how do you get a bike? The answer is jus buy one, and ride it as you wish. So now you have your wheels, you can have your own delivery business.


No need for a helmet and boots, and no rear lights require. You can ride at night where there are no streetlights with no lights on at all!


Watch out the Rozzers are out!!! They have fast 125 power machines

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The roads are made of dirt, so you will need a nobbly fitting. So what are you waiting for, roll up and book a flight! When you arrive give me a call and visit my new used bike showroom, Sprocket bikes Shenzhen... .com


When the crime rate in the city rises then the government want to have a clear up, so they gather up your un registered bike and send it to be crushed, but as nothing in china gets wasted! You pop down the government scrappy and buy yourself your bike back, or some spares from someone else's bike. A good running example could set you back £40, so you will need to save up. Then you need to convert your new bike and improve it with crash protection, made from old gates, A carpet seat cover and a fancy front wheel protector are "have to have "accessories - yes, three baskets of cabbages do fit on a 125 bikotruck! But best is just to turn your bike into a pick up truck! Then you can start your own delivery service. Wander out of the city into a town then you will need better tyres than this chap!




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All roads lead to Kirkby Stephen!

Article submitted by Bob Hill, photography by Richard Cooper I am sure that everyone has those moments when, after being on holiday, we return to work and amidst the chaos that has ensued in our absence, wished they had not gone away. The organisation of the September ride out was a bit like that. Despite my requests no one came forward to lead the ride. This left me holding the baby so to speak. My late agreement, a few days before I went on holiday, to run the September ride, was, on reflection was not my best decision but was done with the interest of the club at heart. On return from holiday two days before the ride I had lots to do and no time to ride the course. Then, as they do, things became worse from there on in. It was with some misgivings that I arrived at the ASDA car park. When I realised that there were 15 expectant riders there I became more concerned. Despite the friendly greetings, no one had come there with the any idea other than to follow me on a ride out. There were Triumphs a plenty with Mireck, Ian Buckle, Rob Young, Nick Templeton, Roy Beniston and Brian. It looked like a Triumph owners club meeting as someone remarked. There were also three Hondas, the VFR of Geoff Scott, Alexander Patrick on his Shaddow and Sue Fletcher on her CBR 600. Tim was riding his 636 Kawasaki. At this stage there was only one BMW ridden by Pauline Scott on her F800ST but we were joined by two GS's at Gargrave. John Blanchfield agreed to be the TEC at the start on his Red Bandit.

Without the benefit of a route reconnaissance I decided to keep it simple and go down the A65 to Kirkby Lonsdale then up to Sedburgh and stop at Kirkby Stephen for a coffee break and fuel. The other advantage of this was that it did not duplicate next months ride round the Dales. Everyone was happy and I told them that if they became separated they should head for Kirkby Stephen. Richard the photographer was going to ambush us on approach to Kirkby Stephen and Steve Coetzer and Keith Blades were going to latch on as we went through Gargrave. Things went well and we arrived at Gargrave a bit later than expected so instead of stopping I rode past the two waiting bikers and

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going home when we rode by. He joined us in the café, Some hasty bacon butties were bought whilst I revised my route which included a trip round Ulleswater and Windemere. I decided to just do the Ulleswater loop. After half an hour in the café the troops were smiling and morale was high. We discussed a stopping place around Ullswater but could not identify one as we had done no reconnaissance. In the end it was decided to stop at a vaguely recollected pub just before the Kirkstone Pass. Meanwhile, John Blanchfield arrived with Keith Blades leaving only Sue Fletcher adrift. We waited until one o clock and decided it was time to move on. Just as we were leaving Sue arrived and after making some remarks about my ability to organise rides was consoled enough to go and get a cup of coffee and visit the loos. Sue did not know where Kirkby Stephen was and had to phone Andy at home (looking after the kids) to get directions, so full marks for determination then. We adjourned to the fuel station and filled up whilst waiting for Sue and finally set off once again on the now foreshortened route. We approached the A66 via the B6259 through Warcop. From there it was a straight run into the lakes and my plan was to take the B5320 through Pooley Bridge. Unfortunately the turning has now been changed and can only be accessed from the A6 which I did not know as, yes you've guessed, because I did not do a reconnaissance. So once again on to plan B and take the A592 to Ulleswater. All was going well and the only problem left was to find the misterious stopping place. We turned into the Patterdale Hotel, which did not look promising

continued on down the A65. At Long Preston we came upon a traffic tailback and as we filtered our way pat I began to realise that the queue went on for some distance and my suspicions of a long delay in the offing was confirmed by some bikers coming the other way giving thumbs down signs. So around Giggleswick I asked Steve with his Sat Nav to lead a loop round the jam. This he did and turned off the A65 south and followed a loop which got us back to the A65 at around Clapham. I then led the ride through Kirkby Lonsdale, through Sedburgh then along the fabulous A683 to Kirkby Stephen where we stopped, somewhat later than first envisaged. By this time one or two of the group were hungry as it was close to twelve and all were keen to find the loos. We also had one or two missing. Richard who had been waiting for us on the outskirts of Kirkby Stephen was just packing up to leave and was in the middle of texting me to say he had missed us and was

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with tales of hindrance and delays and ordered some food and started to relax. It was now getting on for 3.30 so a direct route back was in order. This meant going off my planned route which was on a scrappy bit of paper. I had no map! Keith who has more local knowledge and attached Sat Nav agreed to lead to the A65. I summoned the troops who had made themselves far too comfortable by this time. They were rousted out including the last two to arrive who had just started on their Burger and Chips and once more we set off. The ride back was relatively straight forward, over the fabulous Kirkstone Pass through Bowness and thence the B5284 to the A65. I had agreed to a request to stop for fuel on the A65 and at, Ingleton, did so, only to find that some of the group had stopped at the previous station. Eventually they all came by and after stopping briefly went their own way home. Mireck stayed with me until the last of the stragglers, Sue and TEC Steve caught up. We four went on and peeled off at various places along the A65. Well, a relief that we all got round the ride without loosing anyone and, looking on the bright side, it did not rain at all which is a first this year! There were some fantastic roads, luckily empty. Some of the lessons learned. First, a reconnaissance really is a good idea and if there is no time then make it plain to the group, as I did, that it is all a bit off the cuff. Secondly, if you have expertise and knowledge amongst the group, use it. (many thanks to Steve and Keith for helping with the management of the ride. Thirdly, do not be afraid of changing things if all is not going according to plan. Finally, it is always a good idea to have a map, which I normally carry, honest!! Thanks to those who turned up for their forbearance and generally good humour during the ride. I hope you all had an enjoyable time. The next ride should not have these problems because we have done it three years running. As a result, Mark now knows the way so hopefully you will feel confident enough to join us on the last ride of the year on Sunday 19 October. Mark Grainger will be leading us around the Dales and back for ice cream at Brymore's. Sue will be pleased to hear that I will be in my usual roe as TEC.

and with a band of some 18 Bikes I decided to move on. At this stage we only had about ten of the group in tow and as there was a large pull off and after some consultation with Keith he went on ahead convinced that there was another, and more importantly, better place a bit further on! Sure enough, about a mile down the road and just as the Kirkstone pass was beginning we were flagged in to a pub at Brothers Water. Within 10 minutes nearly all the bikes turned up with the exception of the new TEC, Steve and Alexander. The troops who had arrived earlier quickly organised themselves in the pub and seemed to be having a good laugh. Meanwhile,we waited by the entrance for about twenty minutes and still no one had arrived. Eventually Rob Young volunteered to go back to look and Ian Buckle who did not want to go in the pub agreed to mark the entrance. I went in to the pub to join the troops. About 10 minutes later the two remaining riders arrived complete

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Group news

Monthly meetings

Now that the nights are drawing in we change our Monday evening ride out to a meeting. For our first winter meeting on Monday October 13th we will have guest speaker, Tom Killeen from I2I Motorcycle Academy, followed by a buffet. Unless stated otherwise, we usually meet at 7.30pm at Bilton Cricket Club, Bilton Lane, Harrogate on the Second Monday of each month. We look forward to seeing you there. Please try and send them in a Word document with pictures as good quality jpegs supplied separately. Each newsletter is published at the start of each month so please send articles in by the 3rd week of the month if you want it included in the next issue. Position Chairman Vice Chairman and Rideout Coordinator Secretary Treasurer Chief Observer Social Events Skills Workshop Coordinator Charity Organiser Newsletter Editor Name Jonathan Craig Bob Hill David Wyvil Doug Masterton Mark Grainger Steve Briggs Paul Hendrick Hannah Stoneman Andy Stoneman Tel no: 01937 582392 01132 886495 01423 867052 01132 886444 01757 638186 07889 055133 01423 552743 0113 2669350 0113 2669350 The views and opinions expressed in articles, letters, etc are those of the respective authors, and are not necessarily those of the editor, or the Management Team of Harrogate Advanced Bikes or IAM HQ. E-mail [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]

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Ride-outs 2008

Ride-outs 2008

Well, this is it, the last ride-out of the year. We are now looking for volunteers to organise ride outs in 2009. This is your opportunity to share your favourite ride with other members of the club. So if you have a good or interesting ride please don't be shy, come forward and run your own. Other members will be grateful and we will get more variety. Contact Bob Hill: [email protected]

Date 19 Oct Organiser Mark Grainger Destination The Yorkshire Dales Notes Mark's traditional run back by popular demand

Don't worry if you have not done this before as there is help and advice for those who need it. Just for starters here are a few hints: 1. The ride needs to be about 150 to a maximum of 200 miles or about 5 hours (allow for stops). 2. Remember the stops for administration and food etc. Probably at least 2. The more socially inclined members like this and it gives us all a chance to have a natter. 3. You need to prepare a written route or marked maps. We can help with the copying. 4. Try to keep the route as simple as possible to avoid the break up of the group. 5. Get a mate to do tail end Charlie and ensure he has ridden or knows the route. If no one is available we will try to find a volunteer from the club. Please note that only full members can lead ride outs but this does not prevent you from organising one. Again we will try to find help from the club.

We meet at 9.30am, or earlier if specified,in the car park next to ASDA in Harrogate for directions and information. Leave prompt at 10am ­ we may collect other people en route if they can let the organiser know beforehand. If it's raining at 0945 we can meet under the edge of the ASDA car park. All rides will be using the "Marshalling system" which will be explained during the pre ride briefing.

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